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Doug Fister, Velocity, Strikeouts, and Hard Work
Seattle Mariners’ starting pitcher Doug Fister is well-known for being a soft-tossing righty who gets guys out as a control/command pitcher. Except, in 2011, that’s not necessarily true. Fister’s average fastball velocity is up over 1 MPH in 2011 when compared to 2009 and 2010, and this doesn’t even control for the fact that pitchers as a whole have slower fastball velocities in the early months of the season. (Nor does it control for weather, which plays a role – and we’ve had inclement weather this year.)
Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times interviewed Doug Fister briefly, where Fister said:
“I have been putting in a lot of work in the weight room,” Fister said. “I’ve spent a lot of time lifting, conditioning and throwing. So, yeah, I feel a lot stronger this year. I’m in good shape. We’ll see where it takes us.”
On Monday’s start, Doug Fister’s four-seam fastball was around 91-93 MPH and not 88-90 MPH. What’s the difference between those two numbers? A huge jump. Fastball velocity does not follow a linear curve; the difference between an 88 MPH fastball and a 93 MPH fastball is not the difference between an 80 MPH fastball and a 85 MPH fastball. It’s a much larger – and more effective – improvement. Fastball velocity is positively correlated with strikeout rate at the major league level, and so every tick a pitcher can pick up makes a huge difference. It might mean the difference between staying in the big leagues and being demoted to the minors, never to return.
While we don’t know exactly what Doug Fister was doing for his strength, conditioning, and throwing program, we know he’s been doing more of it. And we also know that the Seattle Mariners use Dr. Marcus Elliot’s programs for many of their athletes, which revolves around free weights, medicine balls, and integrating biomechanical analysis concepts into their training methodologies.
Train Hard, Throw Hard
Pretty simple conclusion – if you train hard, you’ll throw hard. Consider that Doug Fister is an elite baseball athlete already flirting with 90 MPH and yet he was able to add velocity by simple training harder. What kind of improvements can the average prep/college pitcher make if he got on a smart training program and worked his butt off?
Biomechanics and Me?
Posted by Kyle in Links, Mechanics, Motion Analysis on March 21, 2011
I made a guest FanPost titled Biomechanics and Me? over at Lookout Landing, a very popular (and great) Seattle Mariners blog in the SB Nation network. It talks about my history of building our biomechanics lab.
Even prior to Graham’s post, I had been working on building a low-cost biomechanical analysis laboratory in Seattle. For those unaware, high-speed cameras were basically unavailable at reasonable price points in 2008 until the Casio Exilim EX-F1 came out for $1000. Even then, these cameras weren’t enough to do the advanced biomechanical analysis required to even shine a light on the “mechanics” of throwing a baseball. It would require multiple cameras, off-the-shelf software that could solve for kinematics/kinetics (and provide a digitization solution), custom algorithms that could solve the synchronization issue between these consumer-grade cameras (commercial ones do this automatically), and a precisely measured control object.
Commercial packages are available, but cost $15-17k for a two-camera setup that is not sufficient for working with movements that occur in all three planes so rapidly – like baseball pitching. You’re looking at $25-30k at the bare minimum with off-the-shelf packages, plus customization and training.
Head over there and take a look if it interests you!
What it Takes to Compete at the Highest Level – Strength Training!
My business partner sent me a pretty interesting link – The Average Mariner May Surprise You. Consider this:
How big? The team wrapped up their physicals earlier this week and some of the data is in. The average height and weight for the Mariners? 6’3″, 226 pounds. For the visual, the closest to average, I repeat average, is Felix Hernandez.
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“Without a doubt,” Zduriencik answered when asked if this club’s physical makeup was an indicator of the direction he wanted to go in putting together his organization. “The one thing that I thought was important, and I said it to all of our guys, is we need to get physical. Obviously you need baseball players and you need athletes and there are certain positions on the field where size is going to be what it is but I believe that physical players, that guys when you come in and look at this group and go, ‘Hmm. OK, I see it,’ I think it is a reflection of what we are trying to do.”
Zduriencik stressed to me that they are not just going after size, but athletes as well, and it goes beyond signing. It has to be developed.
Great stuff here in this interview, and there’s plenty more, so go give Shannon’s blog a read.
Eric Cressey and Kevin Youkilis were featured in a NESN video this week as well, detailing their off-season workout protocols:
What do you see Kevin doing in the video?
- Trap-bar deadlifts with chains (heavy resistance training)
- Prowler sagittal pulls (metabolic conditioning, mobility)
- Vertical Pallof presses (core stability)
- Medicine ball tosses (power development)
- Sledgehammer overhead strikes (metabolic conditioning, power development)
And yet, as I detailed in My Beef with Select Team Training, I see so-called “advanced” teams forbidding weight training and recommending long distance running instead. They tell their kids not to “get too tight” by lifting weights and that “being too big” is a problem.
Well, as Shannon pointed out, the average Mariner in Spring Training is the size of Felix Hernandez at 6’3″ 226 pounds. Kevin Youkilis is listed at 6’1″ 220 lbs, which conveniently enough is as big as I am. (You probably won’t find me at first or third base for the Red Sox, though.)
The truth of the matter is that athletes in high school and college need to be strong and train properly to mitigate injury risk and to get their best out of their bodies. Professional teams look for these factors when they’re projecting guys – they want to know someone has the work ethic required to make it at the next level. Your body has to be strong enough to endure 150+ games on the road, in a bus, usually with subpar nutritional offerings for days, even weeks, at a time.
If you play select-level baseball and take batting practice 2-3 times per week and field grounders or throw bullpens, you can find time to train in the weight room for three sessions to increase your power, strength, speed, and agility. If you’re interested in looking like and training like professional athletes, that is.
Link/Video: Mariners Strength Program
The Seattle Mariners have switched from a generic strength and conditioning program to a “high-tech” advanced program by Dr. Marcus Elliot. Many articles on the switch have talked about the lack of weights in the weight room and the emphasis on plyometric/movement training, leading many to believe that weights were completely left out of the program altogether. As the video below shows, this isn’t exactly the case:
As you can see, they have a significant amount of cable pulleys with variable resistance to train hip rotation, a rack of dumbbells, and three power cages with a variety of barbells. While this doesn’t constitute a “lack of weights” by anyone in the know, I’m willing to bet most reporters were used to seeing a bunch of isolation-based machines and equated them as “weight training.”
As Dr. Marcus Elliot so succinctly points out, training hip rotation is extremely important in baseball athletes. He also goes on to say that athletes must train their legs for strength and also mentions the need for improved thoracic extension. Improving tissue quality via self-myofascial release (SMR, also known as foam rolling) and performing postural exercises that address these needs is extremely important in a baseball training program.
I’m glad to see a major-league organization that “gets it” and doesn’t have their guys training on machines like most other organizations do. The attention to thoracic extension, hip rotation, and leg strength (just to name a few things I like about the program) are all very good and necessary if you want to effectively train baseball athletes.




