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A Few Words About the 2011 Baseball Offseason
Well, the 2011 baseball offseason has officially arrived at Driveline Baseball / Driveline Athletics. My last fall ball game was over the weekend, and all of our clients have finished their fall ball, tennis, or are training for the 2012 season anyway (a former pro and Olympic pitcher trying to get a 2012 Spring Training invite as well as our shot put / discus / javelin throwers who have spring-only seasons). To be honest, I’m really looking forward to it – the baseball season lasts way too long, and I while I play fall ball myself, I’m in it for recreation. Nothing’s on the line. Comparatively, you have youth athletes throwing 100+ innings going into the fall season who are already really beat up from a grueling spring and summer program with their high schools, colleges, and select teams.
Fall ball is one of the worst things to happen to competitive youth baseball by a long shot. I completely agree with Eric Cressey, who decries fall baseball, showcases, and the like. However, we differ in a pretty big area – time off of throwing. He (and most other organizations, to be fair) prescribes at least 3 months of total rest from throwing. Comparatively, we recommend pitchers never take an extended break from throwing! (Exceptions: Pre-pubescent athletes, professional pitchers.)
Throwing Year-Round: Our Theory
I want to get one thing straight: Driveline Baseball is completely against the concept of pitching year-round. Let me make that very clear: We do not endorse pitching year-round for anyone. However, our athletes will generally finish up their fall ball seasons (sigh) and come into the facility more often for workouts. They might take a week completely off of throwing at the most, then they throw batting practice, weighted baseballs, and long toss on a schedule.
It’s important to separate pitching from throwing. We endorse throwing year-round for athletes trying to improve. There’s simply no skill you get better at by not doing it, and our theory is that you need to learn how to throw before you can pitch. (Not a single one of our athletes is at the point where they have their throwing mechanics down pat and can instead focus entirely on pitching.)
Now, athletes that throw year-round need to carefully manage IR/ER balance in their shoulders and have training in their program to mitigate too much rapid elbow extension outside of their throwing program – so we’ll scale back medicine ball work where the elbow is rapidly extending (chest pass variants) and add in a lot of IR stretching to balance out GIRD-related issues many pitchers tend to have. Pitchers naturally gain shoulder external rotation (ER) as they throw more – and they tend to lose internal rotation (IR) as well. Post-throwing stretching, IR stretches with The Rotator, and soft tissue manipulation can all help to mitigate muscular and movement imbalances in the pitcher’s shoulder.
The Offseason is For Gains – The Season is For Displaying Them
In any responsible training program, the athlete will be busting his rear in the offseason and taking it relatively easy during the competitive season. This fall/winter will be no different in our baseball training program as athletes will be challenged across multiple domains of fitness – strength, speed, agility, endurance, and sport-specific skills. They can expect to move around some heavy weights, throw some medicine balls against concrete walls, perform their sprint drills with a weighted sled, and all sorts of throwing and hitting drills.
Come join us this offseason! Spots are limited for the 2011-2012 training season.
Reviewing ASMI’s Biomechanical Analysis of Dr. Marshall’s Pitchers (Focus: Performance/Velocity)
I’ve been meaning to write on this subject for quite some time, and if it’s received well, I’ll write more about ASMI’s report. A fair warning: This post will be very long and will likely contain a lot of scientific jargon that might be tough to understand. Feel free to contact me with questions or comments at any time.
Understanding ASMI’s Biomechanical Analysis
First and foremost, we need to understand what the biomechanical report actually means. The American Sports Medicine Institute (ASMI) offers high-speed video biomechanical analysis of pitchers. (Driveline Baseball offers a comparable product using similar technology.) Using this technology, ASMI analyzed four of Dr. Marshall’s pitchers, settling on three of them for a grouped analysis report (the fourth was not similar enough to the other three and had significantly lower ball velocity). If you are unaware of who Dr. Marshall is and what his theories are, you have a long road of reading ahead – and if you’re really interested in it, I recommend you read all thirty-seven chapters of his freely available book on his theories before continuing with this article. (I realize that means this article will reach an audience of about 7 people, but whatever.)
Here’s a video of Mike Farrenkopf (a pitcher employing Dr. Marshall’s mechanics) throwing at ASMI’s labs in high-speed:
Getting back on track… ASMI ran their analysis on Dr. Marshall’s pitchers and sent it to Dr. Marshall. Dr. Fleisig (who runs ASMI) and he had some disagreements, Dr. Marshall attempted to discredit ASMI’s techniques, and Dr. Flesig responded with a public in-depth look at Dr. Marshall’s pitchers. ASMI’s published report compares Dr. Marshall’s pitchers with both an “elite” group of pitchers and a “mediocre” group of pitchers – the difference being the ball velocity of the groups (the higher the better).
Reading ASMI’s published report isn’t easy, but I’ll try to simplify it. The categories of Maximum Knee Height and Foot Contact can largely be ignored; they’re just discussing static kinematic measurements during phases of throwing a pitch. What we care about starts in the Arm Cocking phase of the delivery, but before we go into that…
A Simplified Understanding of Where Velocity Comes From
Writing where fastball velocity comes from would take me years and it would hardly be a complete dissertation, so we’re going to go with a basic understanding of the mechanism of action while skipping how we get to that mechanism.
Rotational velocities are generated from various segments of the body from proximal to distal, largest to smallest body part – this is known as the kinetic chain. The legs generate force through ground reaction force (GRF), the pelvis rotates around the front leg, the trunk flexes laterally with some velocity, the upper trunk rotates around the spine, and the pitching arm humerus outwardly rotates (externally rotates). How those forces are achieved and passed from segment to segment is a coaching/training concern and not an analysis concern, so we’re skipping it.
Now the forearm is laid back in Maximum External Rotation (MER) – which should really be Maximum Forearm Layback, because the forearm in this position is aided not only by humeral external rotation but scapular tilt – and it’s ready to internally rotate to deliver the ball to the target.
As we understand it, velocity comes from just two factors under a very simple physics-based approach, which should be easy to grasp for most readers.
The final velocity of the ball will be directly related to the distance over which the ball is accelerated and how quickly the ball is accelerated. Seems simple enough, right?
Think of it this way: If you can cover 10 meters of ground at 10 meters/sec^2 but want to have a higher end velocity, you could either increase the distance you accelerate or increase the rate at which the object moves.
And so, with this partial lesson out of the way…
Why Don’t Dr. Marshall’s Pitchers Throw 90 MPH?
It’s commonly said that if Dr. Marshall’s pitching motion was so good, it would produce pitchers capable of 90+ mph velocities (the standard for elite baseball pitchers these days). Dr. Marshall rebuts this by saying that his athletes are not genetically gifted like most professional pitchers are. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Back to looking at ASMI’s report, I want to point out a few factors that are at play:
- Maximum Throwing Shoulder External Rotation (MER)
- Maximum Throwing Shoulder Internal Rotation Angular Velocity (IR Velocity)
- Maximum Throwing Elbow Extension Angular Velocity (Elbow Extension Velocity)
- The various forces/torques on the shoulder and elbow
The “elite” group (ball velocity 85+ mph in lab testing) had a +/- 1 standard deviation range of 173 to 191 degrees of MER. Dr. Marshall’s pitchers had an average of 162 degrees of MER, which is substantially less than the “elite” group’s. In fact, Dr. Marshall’s pitchers showed more than 2 standard deviations less than the lower bound of the elite group’s MER! This would mean there is significantly less distance for the forearm to travel before the ball must be released.
What’s really interesting is that Dr. Marshall’s pitchers generated an IR Velocity (7899 deg/sec) well within the +/- 1 SD of the “elite” group’s mean IR Velocity, and the same was true for Elbow Extension Velocity. This would seem to indicate that Dr. Marshall’s pitchers had plenty of “fast-twitch” fibers and adequate sequencing of the body (albeit using a vastly different lower body action) to get the job done.
But… something doesn’t make sense: Why are Dr. Marshall’s pitchers’ ball velocities so much lower than the “elite” group’s despite having comparable kinematics of the body parts that matter? The elbow extends and the humerus inwardly rotates as rapidly as the “elite” pitchers in both categories. This is the only thing that should matter, right?
I racked my brain forever after reading this report three years ago and never really grasped the issue above until a few months ago, when I thought it through and talked to numerous kinesiologists and biomechanists. Here’s my theory.
The Broken Kinetic Chain Theory
Dr. Marshall’s pitchers are instructed to powerfully pronate their pitching forearm (source: Chapter Sixteen, Dr. Marshall’s Pitching Book) to prevent the ulna from colliding into the olecranon fossa. In doing so, pitchers theoretically avoid bone chips caused by valgus extension overload. However, the mechanism of action in doing so contracts the both the pronator teres and the pronator quadratus.
Anyone familiar with cracking a whip can tell you that the “looseness” of the whip is what creates the miniature sonic boom at the end of the whip. Paul Nyman showed through simulations of a mechanical arm that very small differences in the mechanics of throwing an object can create major differences in the final velocity of the object. (Source: The Hardball Times) If you were to make a segment of the whip stiff, it would break the smoothly flowing energy of the kinetic chain down the whip, causing the final velocity of the tip to be much lower than it normally would.
This is what is happening when you powerfully contract the pronator muscles in the forearm: You are very likely protecting the ligaments in the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) while simultaneously generating equivalent IR Velocity, Elbow Extension Velocity, and related torques (which are just derivatives of acceleration of body parts; this is typically done using inverse dynamics as outlined by Zatsiorsky) – but you’re getting much lower final velocities of the baseball due to this “stiff” portion violating the kinetic chain. Additionally, due to the rotating forearm as the arm is accelerated forward, the wrist is not laid back for the final acceleration into ball release.

Wagner's Laid Back Wrist
This can be seen by evaluating Mike Farrenkopf’s high-speed video above and comparing it to high-speed video of traditional professional pitchers. These factors can help explain why change-ups are slower than fastballs, as traditional change-ups are thrown with active pronation of the forearm. (It does not explain it all, however – in Kinetic Comparison Among the Fastball, Curveball, Change-up, and Slider in Collegiate Baseball Pitchers by Fleisig et al, you can see that rotational velocities and related torques are slower for the change-up as well; this shows that most change-ups are not thrown with the same “arm speed” as fastballs, despite what you hear from coaches.)
Additional Thoughts
It’s often said that the faster the arm externally rotates (rMER) during Arm Cocking that the stretch-shortening cycle (SSC) will cause humeral IR velocity to increase dramatically as a result, but this theory is not supported by ASMI’s research. Why were Dr. Marshall’s pitchers able to generate such amazing IR Velocities and Elbow Extension Velocities with rMER of just 405 deg/sec when the range of rMER for “elite” pitchers is 1291-1866 deg/sec?
I have more thoughts on this subject for future publication if this article is well-received and there is sufficient interest.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions or comments on this blog post.
Trevor Bauer Will Not Be Babied
I love this article on Sports Illustrated about Trevor Bauer:
Bauer throws at least six days a week with baseballs, weighted balls or medicine balls. He long-tosses 380 feet, even before starts. He warms up for his outings with about 45 pitches in the bullpen, and during especially long innings when his team is at bat, he heads back to the pen for more work. On his first warmup toss between innings, he crow hops across the mound and unleashes a fastball more than 100 miles per hour. This past season at UCLA, where Bauer was National Pitcher of the Year, he led the country in strikeouts (203 in 136 2/3 innings), led the Pac-10 with a 1.25 ERA and held opposing hitters to a .154 batting average. More remarkably, his last nine outings were all complete games, and in only one did he throw fewer than 130 pitches. After each of them he was out long-tossing the next day.
Major league executives have been conditioned to wince at such a regimen, assuming all that throwing will weaken the arm and eventually lead to injury. Over the past 20 years most organizations have tried to protect young starters by barring them from long-tossing more than 120 feet, or from throwing more than 30 pitches in the bullpen or more than 100 in a game. The intentions were admirable. The results, as evidenced by thousands of elbow and shoulder surgeries, have been catastrophic.
Bauer saw what those organizations did and then weighed it against information he collected from coaches, classes, books, videos and personal experience. “I just felt like there was a more efficient way for me,” he says. He concluded that his throwing regimen actually strengthened his arm, as long as it was in concert with extensive stretching and sound mechanics. Before this year’s draft, he arranged face-to-face meetings with representatives from the clubs interested in him. He wanted to explain the specifics of his routine and the rationale behind it. He was willing to sacrifice a better slot in the draft—and therefore potentially accept a lower signing bonus—to be with an organization that trusted him.
And on what it takes to make it at the highest level:
In elementary school Bauer was teased by classmates because he wore baseball pants instead of jeans. In high school he was taunted by teammates because he carried a six-foot plastic shoulder tube that loosened his arm. Coaches called it Linus’s blanket. “A lot of people don’t want to be different,” Bauer says. “And if they are, they hide it so no one holds it against them. But I didn’t want to be at the mall at 10 p.m. I wanted to be at the park.”
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”Look, I’m not that big,” says Bauer, who is 6’1″, 185. “I’m not that strong. I’m not fast. I’m not explosive. I can’t jump. I wasn’t a natural-born athlete. I was made.”
Athletes are made. Not born.
Do you have the work ethic to make it at the next level – be it high school, college, or pro ball? Then we want to talk to you. Train at Driveline Baseball.
4 Great Reasons To Throw Weighted (and Lightweight) Baseballs
We use underweight and overweight baseballs here in our throwing program to develop velocity for the majority of our trainees going through our Elite Baseball Training program. I’ve talked about weighted baseballs in the past with a basic program sample, but it’s important to note that the correct program will vary depending on the athlete’s age, training status, injuries, current velocity, and various other factors. Simply picking up a set of modified baseballs and throwing them 3-4 times a week is probably a bad idea, especially if you haven’t built up a reasonable base of strength instead.
With that in mind, here are four great reasons to integrate weighted (or overload/underload) baseball throwing into your training program:
#1: Underweight Baseballs are Safer to Throw
Underweight baseballs have been shown to produce superior elbow angular velocity and shoulder angular velocity but profile with similar kinetic loads on the shoulder and elbow. (Source: ASMI) This dispels the popular myth that lightweight baseballs are more dangerous to throw!
#2: Underweight Baseballs Train Faster Arm Speed
In the ASMI source above, you can read that lightweight baseballs produced higher elbow/shoulder angular velocities with higher ball velocity. This helps to train the arm to move faster and develop quicker arm speed! Proprioceptive sense can be developed as a result to help the athlete learn a different biomechanical pattern to produce better velocity with a standard baseball in competition.
#3: Overweight Baseballs Help Condition the Arm
Weighted (overload) baseballs will decrease the kinematics of the throwing motion while likely increasing the kinetics on the shoulder and elbow joint. In doing so, you can help move across the speed-strength continuum to generate a different physiological response in the tissues responsible for accelerating – and more importantly, decelerating – the baseball. There are a lot of drills that can be done with heavy baseballs, like 2 lb. ones. Here’s a simple kneeling drill that we do:
#4: Under/Overload Training Simply Produces Higher Fastball Velocities!
Dr. Coop DeRenne’s research backs this up time and time again. Using a simple Google search, I suggest reading these relevant research papers:
- Effects of General, Special, and Specific Resistance Training on Throwing Velocity in Baseball: A Brief Review (DeRenne et al, 2001)
- Effects of Baseball Weighted Implement Training: A Brief Review (DeRenne et al, 2009)
- Increasing Throwing Velocity (DeRenne, 1985)
- Effects of Under-and Over-Weighted Implement Training and Pitching Velocity (1994)
Enough said!




