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> <channel><title>Comments on: P90x for Baseball?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=p90x-for-baseball</link> <description>Elite Seattle Baseball Training and Coaching - Driveline Baseball</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:56:13 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Bplayersob19</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-3528</link> <dc:creator>Bplayersob19</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-3528</guid> <description>your an idiot</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your an idiot</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kyle</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-3337</link> <dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 03:36:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-3337</guid> <description>&quot;On problem 2, Horton also is constantly telling people that if you want size/strength, go to a weight where you go to 6 to 8 reps.&quot;
I can squat 315 lbs 6-8 times. Can I do this in P90x?
&quot;Why dont you try p90x? how on earth can you say that there is no weight training involved? about 60 percent of it is.&quot;
Weight training is not doing push-ups and pull-ups with 20 lb. DBs or resistance bands.
I don&#039;t see any deadlifts in P90x. Or power cleans.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On problem 2, Horton also is constantly telling people that if you want size/strength, go to a weight where you go to 6 to 8 reps.&#8221;</p><p>I can squat 315 lbs 6-8 times. Can I do this in P90x?</p><p>&#8220;Why dont you try p90x? how on earth can you say that there is no weight training involved? about 60 percent of it is.&#8221;</p><p>Weight training is not doing push-ups and pull-ups with 20 lb. DBs or resistance bands.</p><p>I don&#8217;t see any deadlifts in P90x. Or power cleans.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Turner</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-3310</link> <dc:creator>Turner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:05:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-3310</guid> <description>Why dont you try p90x?    how on earth can you say that there is no weight training involved? about 60 percent of it is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont you try p90x?    how on earth can you say that there is no weight training involved? about 60 percent of it is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bobby</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-1050</link> <dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-1050</guid> <description>Interesting.  I won&#039;t argue that P90X is not meant for baseball training.  But the arguments you give show you don&#039;t know the course.  On problem one, tracking the progress in the program is a key part of P90X and it is emphasized in virtually strength routine.  And Horton is constantly telling you to stop the tape when you need to rest, etc.
On problem 2, Horton also is constantly telling people that if you want size/strength, go to a weight where you go to 6 to 8 reps. If you&#039;re looking for squats, deadlifts, bench presses, presses, and rows, these exercises do appear in various forms in the course (pushups for bench presses is the exception).
On problems 3 and 4, your problem with isolation training appears to be addressed through the core synergistics module, abdominals module  and yoga module.
As I said, I wouldn&#039;t advocate P90X for a total baseball training workout, though I think it is much better than what most people are doing (all that &quot;muscle confusion&quot; really means is &quot;variety&quot; and &quot;variety&quot; means the athlete won&#039;t get as bored of the training as soon -- a great motivator!).  But the points you make against P90X are not convincing and seem to be based on a very shallow understanding of the program.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I won&#8217;t argue that P90X is not meant for baseball training.  But the arguments you give show you don&#8217;t know the course.  On problem one, tracking the progress in the program is a key part of P90X and it is emphasized in virtually strength routine.  And Horton is constantly telling you to stop the tape when you need to rest, etc.</p><p>On problem 2, Horton also is constantly telling people that if you want size/strength, go to a weight where you go to 6 to 8 reps. If you&#8217;re looking for squats, deadlifts, bench presses, presses, and rows, these exercises do appear in various forms in the course (pushups for bench presses is the exception).</p><p>On problems 3 and 4, your problem with isolation training appears to be addressed through the core synergistics module, abdominals module  and yoga module.</p><p>As I said, I wouldn&#8217;t advocate P90X for a total baseball training workout, though I think it is much better than what most people are doing (all that &#8220;muscle confusion&#8221; really means is &#8220;variety&#8221; and &#8220;variety&#8221; means the athlete won&#8217;t get as bored of the training as soon &#8212; a great motivator!).  But the points you make against P90X are not convincing and seem to be based on a very shallow understanding of the program.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Blair</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-1048</link> <dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:03:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-1048</guid> <description>I have completed P90x and Insanity, both infomercial fitness sets sold on TV.  I would say you are dead wrong.  I love your blog, but with P90x, you improve your cardio, core, leg strength and overall level of fitness more than any other workout I&#039;ve ever done.  I played HS basketball and volleyball with some pretty intense coaches, and I was never in this kind of shape.  I think you need to try the workouts before you rip them apart.  Sure, it might not be tuned to baseball, but it works muscles and muscle groups you never even knew you had.
The first routine is all pullups and pushups.  If you do it twice, you&#039;ll already see and feel a noticable difference.  There is also plyometrics, yoga, stretching and core.
You might say &quot;everything works,&quot; but I would argue that P90x works better than anything else out there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have completed P90x and Insanity, both infomercial fitness sets sold on TV.  I would say you are dead wrong.  I love your blog, but with P90x, you improve your cardio, core, leg strength and overall level of fitness more than any other workout I&#8217;ve ever done.  I played HS basketball and volleyball with some pretty intense coaches, and I was never in this kind of shape.  I think you need to try the workouts before you rip them apart.  Sure, it might not be tuned to baseball, but it works muscles and muscle groups you never even knew you had.</p><p>The first routine is all pullups and pushups.  If you do it twice, you&#8217;ll already see and feel a noticable difference.  There is also plyometrics, yoga, stretching and core.</p><p>You might say &#8220;everything works,&#8221; but I would argue that P90x works better than anything else out there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kyle</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link> <dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:45:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-490</guid> <description>Jeff, you&#039;re forgetting the three rules I laid out above:
1. Everything works.
2. Some things work better than others.
3. Nothing works forever.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you&#8217;re forgetting the three rules I laid out above:</p><p>1. Everything works.<br
/> 2. Some things work better than others.<br
/> 3. Nothing works forever.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link> <dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-489</guid> <description>Interesting article Kyle. In my opinion and from personal experience I think P90x is amazing for baseball players, especially pitchers. Muscle confusion is NOT BS. Its science... Kung Fu masters have been using the science of muscle confusion for thousands of years! BTW, Eric Cressey gets PAID to train people... P90x takes money out of his pocket so of course he is going to give it a bad review!
I&#039;m a 30 year old pitcher playing in amateur leagues year round. I just started p90x a few weeks ago. I&#039;m not even doing it everyday, just a couple times per week and I can already feel a major difference. I threw a complete game shut out which I havent been able to do since high school. I usually tire after the 5th or 6th inning. My fastball had more &quot;pop&quot; to it as well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article Kyle. In my opinion and from personal experience I think P90x is amazing for baseball players, especially pitchers. Muscle confusion is NOT BS. Its science&#8230; Kung Fu masters have been using the science of muscle confusion for thousands of years! BTW, Eric Cressey gets PAID to train people&#8230; P90x takes money out of his pocket so of course he is going to give it a bad review!</p><p>I&#8217;m a 30 year old pitcher playing in amateur leagues year round. I just started p90x a few weeks ago. I&#8217;m not even doing it everyday, just a couple times per week and I can already feel a major difference. I threw a complete game shut out which I havent been able to do since high school. I usually tire after the 5th or 6th inning. My fastball had more &#8220;pop&#8221; to it as well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kyle</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link> <dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:00:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-477</guid> <description>Eddie,
Sorry for the late reply!
Pick up a copy of Mark Rippetoe&#039;s &quot;Starting Strength&quot; and check out basic barbell training. Losing weight is all about diet and very little about exercise. For good cardio to improve endurance (VO2max) and fat loss, search the Internet for &quot;Tabata protocol&quot; articles.
For flexibility, I&#039;d look up Eric Cressey&#039;s products like Magnificent Mobility and/or Assess and Correct.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie,</p><p>Sorry for the late reply!</p><p>Pick up a copy of Mark Rippetoe&#8217;s &#8220;Starting Strength&#8221; and check out basic barbell training. Losing weight is all about diet and very little about exercise. For good cardio to improve endurance (VO2max) and fat loss, search the Internet for &#8220;Tabata protocol&#8221; articles.</p><p>For flexibility, I&#8217;d look up Eric Cressey&#8217;s products like Magnificent Mobility and/or Assess and Correct.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eddie</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link> <dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:04:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-463</guid> <description>Kyle,
I am 31 years old and have some fat to lose. I am guilty of being gullable I did buy the P90X package. I like it, its tough, I feel like I get a workout, but I don&#039;t feel the same as I do when I lift weights and run outside. So what would suggest for someone who wants to get a little stronger, more flexable, but also needs to lose some weight?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p><p>I am 31 years old and have some fat to lose. I am guilty of being gullable I did buy the P90X package. I like it, its tough, I feel like I get a workout, but I don&#8217;t feel the same as I do when I lift weights and run outside. So what would suggest for someone who wants to get a little stronger, more flexable, but also needs to lose some weight?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kyle</title><link>http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2010/03/03/p90x-for-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link> <dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:25:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/?p=413#comment-431</guid> <description>Dan,
Thanks for the comment. Indeed, you can use many implements to accommodate the low-bar position that&#039;s less stressful on the rotator cuff and shoulder in general.
Starting Strength uses the low-bar position for more posterior chain and hamstring involvement, and I use it in my own training, but athletic carryover is a bit higher with the high-bar position and it comes more naturally to clients, I&#039;ve found.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p><p>Thanks for the comment. Indeed, you can use many implements to accommodate the low-bar position that&#8217;s less stressful on the rotator cuff and shoulder in general.</p><p>Starting Strength uses the low-bar position for more posterior chain and hamstring involvement, and I use it in my own training, but athletic carryover is a bit higher with the high-bar position and it comes more naturally to clients, I&#8217;ve found.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
